I am not even going to go into detail of this game. Both teams were poor. A draw may have been a fairer result but Stoke took their chance.

4 points from 8 games is desperately worrying for Villa. The club sits a further 4 points from safety with the next league game turning into a relegation 6 pointer with Chelsea. Chelsea are one of three teams who sit on 8 points. With West Brom and Bournemouth being the others.  It’s worrying that by the next game we could be 7 points of safety.

I think the squad is good enough to be challenging mid-table. The problem is Tim still has not found a system that works. The team look to be too narrow with not enough play out to Amavi or Hutton (Bacuna). I think the sooner a system is picked and stuck with, the sooner the team will get better and the performances will improve. But this really needs to be sooner rather than later!

With big fixtures against Swansea, Tottenham, Manchester City and Everton, we will be very lucky to be in double figures come December.